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… she pulls at her mistress’s skirts. Please keep it in your backlist! Way too often, the authors of historical fiction will change history to suit their plotline. Thanks, Wiles Wales (and Claire!). Of course, I read the works as fiction, not as sources of historical facts. For instance, in my book The Spymaster’s Daughter, I found two sources for Walsingham’s wife…both with different names. Is it factual, no, but it is an interpretation, some will like, some won’t, but at least try to read it before condemning it It is actually on audio book too, (Wolf Hall) expensive though at the moment, the unabridged version is anyway, but maybe that will be on lbrary selves too soon. Claire,You could not of said it better! If I were one of them I’d want my money back. When he was arrested, Fisher’s cook, Richard Roose, allegedly claimed that had had just put purgatives into the food as a joke and that he meant no harm. Jane Rochford loves to stir things up. I find Anne Boleyn more fascinating with real historical detail. Emma Sorry ,Your pic looks very young kudos to you anyway,its just my thouht any way.so sorry AB friend. Anne was not there in this version, and Henry gets to know her well, then asks for her to come to court, were he plays attention to Jane. “Bring Up the Bodies” is in many ways a study of power and influence, how to acquire it and how to use it, and makes you realize that serving at court under a willful monarch is not so very different from negotiating your way through the corporate maze, except that now your master can only sack you, not send you to the Tower. Mantel writes Cromwell as a corrupt man who is unaware of his own corruption. My concern about this novel is that there are many inaccuracies in the ‘historical afterword’, which I think most readers would expect to be entirely factual. Bring Up the Bodies by Hilary Mantel, what a delicious book! In point of fact, Cromwell is not pictured as an angel, He is less empathetic is this book than he was in the first book of the trilogy. Mantel also portrays George and Jane’s marriage as unhappy, with George humiliating Jane by sleeping with whores and Jane telling Cromwell that she thinks that George has given her a disease and that is why she cannot have children. Weston, Norris, Brereton and George are portrayed as unremittingly arrogant, obnoxious and unpleasant. But what if I was portrayed, without justification, as a whore or a coward or a person completely lacking in morality? So his interpretation of events is not neccesarily the whole truth of the matter. Mantel exposed Cromwell’s soul. Although Cromwell advised Wolsey to bribe some of Anne’s favourites in an attempt to gain favour with her, he ensured that all of the recipients to those bribes knew that the suggestion came from him, and therefore they had him to thank for them and not Wolsey. She is creative with her stories but makes it clear what is true and what is not, and I really appreciate that when I’m reading a novel. After reading this article, I feel so strongly about this book that I’m never ever goinf to read it.. Come on!! '”, (The scene of Anne’s execution in the second book is the most moving I’ve ever read– something about the way Mantel captures the split-second shift between life and death. And remember Mantel doesn’t claim to be writing history. This slippery, protean quality feels almost spooky at times, as if, like Alison Hart, the protagonist of “Beyond Black,” she possessed powers not entirely natural. WilesWales asked me to post this comment on his behalf as he’s having trouble commenting: “Thank you, Claire, and I have read Susan Higginbotham as well, and it was a complete lack of giving out the GREAT authors, and wonder how I forgot mention her! The majority of historians believe that Anne and the men were innocent and were framed. It is as if we, the readers are being prepared for .the fate that awaits them, and will be thinking “ah well I always knew that they were a thoroughly bad lot!” I know because it is fiction it will be deemed acceptable by many. I can’t take credit for the “defaming the dead” phrase; it comes via Sharon Penman, who I believe credits novelist Laurel Corona for the phrase. I was wondering the same thing how much fact is in this fiction since I am reading both Bringing up bodies and Wolfe Hall. Readers of Claire’s post may be interested in this piece of mine, published when “Bring Up the Bodies” had just come out: http://chronicle.com/article/When-Fictionalized-Facts/131759/. Yes, debate and discussion are welcome here. Thank you Claire and Clare, once again, as this is great (it even reminds me of the Bertram Fields article Claire wrote from emails received a while back and what fun reading the laundry list [no offense, as this stuff is great] of inaccuracies and getting the facts of the characters right. And seriously, George Boleyn crying on the stand? This article was written by Clare and myself because of the amount of emails I’ve received asking me about which bits are accurate and which aren’t and also in response to those reports which are talking about the book as if it is actually factual, rather than a novel. Gortner, and Sandra Worth are the ones I have read (even though I have been a professor, but htat hardly matters when reading historical fiction, as I love to read authors who make it great and might one day get to this site or enter what used to be my profession!) That was a well written article and again, brings home that these books are not historical fact, not historical biographies in the true sense of the word but rather, they are “Novels”. I have read ‘Bring Up the Bodies’ and because I am fascinated with history, both fact and fiction, I enjoyed it. I don’t add them to my collection unless I deem them worthy. And I knew before reading this article there would be blatant inaccuracies. I don’t say anything about Mantel personally, just as I don’t about Philippa Gregory or Alison Weir etc. Thank you, WilesWales!  || Wordpress installation and design by http://www.MadeGlobal.com, FREE Anne Boleyn Hello everyone! Did Anne have a fool she started calling Mary, as Hilary Mantel has it in Bring Up the Bodies? I totally agree. It was excellent. And there is my issue with the likes of Mantel and Gregory – the film of TOBG had Anne snivelling on the scaffold. I read Wolf Hall and I enjoyed it. You have used double quotation marks, I was taught to use single, unless it was to punctuate speaking, eg, “The Anne Boleyn Files is a marvelous site” she said. This helped enormously and added to my interest in the novel. Okay, I will give one of them a try. I well remember having a rant about this dreadful piece of character assassination before on this site. He sent Jane and her family home where she was to wait until called for. Not to mention, it tarnishes the images even more of these people as if they don’t matter anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/books/review/bring-up-the-bodies-by-hilary-mantel.html. Mantel is a novelist. The Tudors Season 1 Episode 3 – Wolsey, Wolsey, Wolsey! (“The Lady in the Tower”, about Anne Boleyn, is a personal favourite).I would recommend them because they are much better written than works by the likes of Gregory. After all, ‘Bring Up the Bodies’ is a novel, not a biography, and a novelist surely has leeway to flesh out characters and invent dialogue. But what I find most strange is that because of Claire’s comments, and other negative comments too, some people have decided not to read the book at all, and ‘glad they have not wasted their money’, why…. If I’m wrong, please feel free to comment, as I like to hear what others think. The second book, Bring up the bodies, carries on in a very similar style, so at first the ambiance feels very familiar. In the novel, Cromwell loathes Thomas, Anne and George Boleyn and holds Thomas and George in complete contempt. Her Cromwell, through whose eyes and inside whose head the story unfolds, is no saint either, but surprisingly he emerges as warm, bright, humane, decent (for the most part) and immensely capable. I don’t see Mantel’s Cromwell despising Anne. I won’t be adding either of Mantel’s Cromwell novels. In Bring Up the Bodies, the volatile Anne Boleyn is now Queen, her career seemingly entwined with that of Cromwell. And so is this outline of all the factual errors, which is 1000 times better than any review. Kind Regards Baroness x. I agree with Dawn – it is great pity that some commentators are suggesting that the book should not be read, or even put in the bin. Great Mallory! Always love to try new reading material:-)). if(typeof __ez_fad_position != 'undefined'){__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-theanneboleynfiles_com-medrectangle-4-0')};Categories: Anne Boleyn Fall, Books, Events of 1536, Representations of Anne Boleyn, The Boleyns, Wolf HallTags: Bring Up the Bodies, Hilary Mantel, historical fiction, The Fall of Anne Boleyn. One of the things I always think of when I hear rumors and speculations or read a book based on the Tudors or anyone connected to them (well for anyone in history really), is what would they think if they were alive today? If you are interested in reading more about this fascinating man then do read Schofield’s book “The Rise and Fall of Thomas Cromwell”, I highly recommend it.if(typeof __ez_fad_position != 'undefined'){__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-theanneboleynfiles_com-medrectangle-3-0')}; Bring Up the Bodies is a very readable book and I will always enjoy reading fiction on Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn and Thomas Cromwell, but I was disappointed by the characterization. It took C.W. The handling of Anne’s trial and execution was powerful and moving. It seems like by ignoring some of the facts Mantel has actually done a disservice to how interesting and complex Anne’s fall really was, which is what I assumed the second book was actually exploring. However drama and fiction love the traditional story that has Henry visit Wolf Hall with a few hunting pals and stayed without Anne. Lastly, keep in mind that we’re also seeing Cromwell, so witty and companionable, so humane in his domestic life, slowly morphing into a fascist. I am an ardent fan of all Tudor books, and always vet new books on the subject by borrowing them. Thank you, WilesWales, So agree with WilesWales. At some point Henry falls for Jane and wants to serve her. Henry was pleased and courted her honourably. Following his condemnation, he met his fate with composure. Cromwell llikes him and finds him congenial company, despite their religious and political differences. But Cromwell was a deeply ambitious man whose apparent primary goal was to serve his king, not Anne and not our 21st-century ideal of justice. Debate and discussion are welcome here. Cromwell says “If someone said to Lady Rochford, ‘It’s raining,’ she would turn it into a conspiracy; as she passed the news on, she would make it sound somehow indecent, unlikely, but sadly true.” She is a gossip and tell-tale. Anne will always be a polarizing figure but I think that is what attracts me to her! That’s a very good idea. http://www.cwgortner.com gives great interviews, and Sandra Worth’s site, http://www.sandraworth.com“. I get so tired of “George the beast”, as if he is some kind of Incredible Hulk with too many hormones. But, forgive me, you will never see me on ‘The Tudors’ wiki. Since I see the Sandra Byrd banner constantly on this website, I will give that one a try and let you know what I think. Sometime before noon, clouds scudded in from the west and rain fell in big scented drops; but the sun A biography of Chapuys is long overdue. I’m certainly not criticising Mantel (for being creative) or the genre of historical fiction as I love it. . Cromwell practically an angel? Anne was passionate, Jane gave him peace and stability. The king, with a small hunting party which does not include Anne the queen, … BBC Two and Masterpiece are hooking up for a “major” adaptation of Hilary Mantel’s Booker Prize winning historical fiction novels Wolf Hall and Bring Up The Bodies. (In interviews Mantel has promised a third volume, which presumably will end with Cromwell’s death in 1540, when, after rewarding him with an earldom, Henry almost in the same moment strikes him down.) . Anne Boleyn is reduced to a similar caricature to the one portrayed in ‘The Other Boleyn Girl’. I always said and still do that I would swear in court and not perjure myself but those who came up with these stories could not do the same. He’s as genial and warmhearted as ever, but his ruthless, McCarthy-like prosecution of Anne, playing one witness off against another, happens so fast it’s harrowing. This is what makes historical fact so fun to read. Hilary Mantel’s Bring Up the Bodies follows the dramatic trial of the queen and her suitors for adultery and treason. Enjoyed most of them even though I knew that they were not the real historical events, behaviors etc that took place in that time period.I also realize that there is not much of historical documentation to go back to that sometimes we must fill in the blanks the best we can. “He said the Russians weren’t really into murdering people,” Gene told me. Thank you, WilesWales. In Bring Up the Bodies, George Boleyn, Henry Norris, Francis Weston and William Brereton performed in a play about Wolsey being dragged to Hell. But I think the popularity of the book reflects Mantel’s magical ability to render this story in modern terms “”One of the reasons for this literary success is that Mantel seems to have written a very good modern novel, then changed all her fictional names to English historical figures of the fifteen-twenties and thirties”‘ (New Yorker magazine review of the book) But does this end justifiy the means? It would seem to me that Mantel is a kind of “copycat” of Phillpa, but in different ways. Attractive section of content. Dear Straight Dope: I'm reading Huckleberry Finn again, and I've reached the part where Huck, having faked his murder and run away, is hiding on an island watching the ferry try to locate his corpse in the river. I like Anne, and I’ve been on her side for almost 50 years. Thomas Cromwell, Cardinal Wolsey and Wolf Hall, The Boleyns of Hever Castle – Owen Emmerson and Claire Ridgway talk – 1 August 2021, The Secrets of the Rainbow: Medieval Artists’ Pigments by Toni Mount, 12 Facts about Jane Boleyn, Lady Rochford. Jane goes on to say, “Nothing is forbidden to George, you see. The ritual is called MaiNene. “Bring Up the Bodies” (the title refers to the four men executed for supposedly sleeping with Anne) isn’t nostalgic, exactly, but it’s astringent and purifying, stripping away the cobwebs and varnish of history, the antique formulations and brocaded sentimentality of costume-­drama novels, so that the English past comes to seem like something vivid, strange and brand new. I realise that people are often commenting from their phones (the joys of autocorrect!) I have to say, though, I am not surprised; I was put off by the two-dimensional portrayal of Anne in Wolf Hall. Oop’s on the site, and thank you, Claire, as I did take this the wrong way. I am very glad she did! Two poor people, Bennett Curwen and Alice Tryppytt, died from eating the food and Roose was “attainted of high treason” and “boiled to death without benefit of clergy”. title refers to the four men executed for supposedly sleeping with Anne) Come on!Regards. Please refer to Clare’s most superior definition of historical fiction above. It is a shame that fiction writers do seem to want to continue stereotypical portrayals of historical characters rather than cling closer to the truth. I find her work a waste of time for her and for me and all others, that had the grueling misfortune to read her novel and make a movie that, was two of the darkest things I have read ,and well seen. The execution scene is heartbreaking, whatever you think of Anne, and this is how her life ends: “There is a groan, one single sound from the whole crowd. However, Anne was far from the bossy, cruel shrew of Wolf Hall. There is also an indication that Henry turned against her due to her sexual depravity in bed (see above). Just as in any hisorical novel there has to be some creativity and some rearranging, and Jillian has done for “The Last Queen” what you did for this article. A very interesting topic, I couldn’t get through “Wolf Hall”‘ but I did rather enjoy “”Bring Up the Bodies”‘, perhaps because I knew the topic so well, I do agree that Anne fares badly here and that Mantel has played pretty loose with the historical record, She is also quilty of the “sin of omission”‘ in that she excludes Anne’s speech at her trial and on the scaffold and thereby weakens her character. Following Wolf Hall (2009) and Bring Up the Bodies (2012), it is the final instalment in her trilogy charting the rise and fall of Thomas Cromwell , minister in the court of King Henry VIII , covering the last four years of his life, from 1536 until his death by execution in 1540. For me, if you are going to write a book based on historical figures, show some respect as if they were alive today, do your homework, get it right or don’t bother. Wonderful article, it was great reading through your views on the book. In reality, it has been established by most historians that a combination of factors resulted in Anne’s downfall i.e. I don’t have time right now to carefully consider Claire’s various points, many of them smart and perceptive. Not to mention, it tarnishes the images even more of these people as if they don’t matter anymore. I feel like one of your other posters. She actuallly gives it all. Now to move out of this and on to the rest of my life with so much I’ve missed in the past few days…. The issue of whether Anne and the men were guilty of the crimes they were accused of is left wide open, but there is a strong suggestion in the novel that Anne may have been guilty and also an indication that Cromwell believed she may well have been guilty after all. They are not “David Copperfield,” which is great fiction, a not Barbara Taylor Bradford’s latest book! I prefer historic biographies for learning more; however, I still enjoy a NOVEL for fun and read them with a grain-of-salt, remembering they ARE novels and meant to “entertain” not enlighten nor teach. The matter just quietly went away. She was “betholled” and only married once to her Philip, heir to the Hapsburg Empire. Obviously it would be incredibly boring and only my mother would buy it (and I’m not too sure about her)! Another hatchet job? I think she is far more interested in a nuanced and more modern reading of Cromwell’s imagined inner life…as a way to think about politicians of any period… driven as they all are by psychology, intelligence, and personality. She was kind and brave, everything Henry needed in a wife after the storm that was Anne. The new book is shorter and tauter than its predecessor, and superior in at least one stylistic respect. I read “The Chronicle of Higher Education” artilce about the movie “Anne of the Thousand Days” and comparing it with Mantel’s book, and it is amazing to me that some (some meaning at least one) tears apart Phillipa and loves that movie so much. How exactly is Anne Boleyn portrayed in this book? Spot on! The young Raph is reporting in episode five that the four men are competing for Anne’s bed to take Henry’s place if Henry cannot or will not give her a son. !I also like Susan HiggInbotham Her Highness,THE TRAITOR Kind Regards Baroness x, Well said, Clare! Wyatt is portrayed as being bitter about his involvement with Anne and the way that she teases men and plays with them. I look forward to reading! With regards to audio, I’d love to do audio books and also translate my books into other languages but companies like audible will only consider you if you have a large backlist or you’re selling hundred of thousands of books. I agree. At one point, he asks of George Boleyn, ‘what are you for?’! Again, as in ‘The Other Boleyn Girl’, there is a suggestion that Anne and George may have copulated in order to produce a son. Was Anne Boleyn treated as queen in the Tower of London? If read in that context, many of the authors listed by WilesWales are excellent writers of historical fiction and “good reads”. In reality, Thomas Boleyn commissioned the play, which was performed at a private meal for the French Ambassador, and … But I also felt that I was reading about pure evil. I can tell by your attitude that you wouldn’t like it. Many of us here at TABF see Anne as a sort of feminist precursor, as an enlightened woman, whatever her negative qualities. As far as George Boleyn is concerned, I don’t think that it is contrary to historical fact to portray him as arrogant and a dandy. As well I could’nt not belieavethat Phillpia Gregory was a commentater at Queen Elizabeth 2,Queens Jubbillee,I was looking for CLARE and CLAIRE were could those ladies be?? Please give me a lttile time! Mantel may well be writing a piece of fiction, but we all know how some will take it as fact. Laureen. Thomas Cromwell is portrayed as being entirely loyal to Wolsey, hence his loathing for those who brought Wolsey down. Cromwell was the king’s man and did what he had to do, is my opinion. It is more fictionalized than true, and if Clair and I had no “empathy” for the characters in the book, it serves interest in the Tudors, but in Phillipa’s it does in the wrong ways. Well done, Claire. Thank you! I also noticed nothing in “The Confessions of Catherine de Medici,” nor, “The Secret Lion,” and WIILL keep my eyes peeled while reading “A Queen’s Vow” as well! I enjoyed ‘Bring Up the Bodies’ very much. For instance, no one seems to read Jean Plaidy anymore but I have ALL her Tudor novels and I love them! I am not rushing out to purchase “Bring Up The Bodies” as the inaccuracies would only make me cross. It was a symbiotic relationship, which worked well for all of them. Fascinating and suspenseful.” —Charles McGrath, The New York Times Book Review She was concerned about his children, Anne was antagonistic. is why does author create so many untruths about Queen Anne Boleyn? He was the odd one out. George Boleyn cries at his trial and has to be helped to a chair for fear that he will collapse – In actual fact, George’s defence was so impressive that a number of people commented on it. The characters seem more real overall, with their good and bad qualities. But I also think some historical fiction is brilliant, if not always accurate. In reality, we don’t know what Jane was like but her involvement in Catherine Howard’s fall has led people to label her as a ‘meddler’. I had jury duty and had to sit around for almost 2 days and this book really helped keep me from falling asleep.. Just another Anne Boleyn hater in need of exerting her dislike for the subject. After reading ‘The Other Boleyn Girl’, I became fascinated by the Tudor period, and began reading every book, fiction and non fiction, I could get my hands on. ‘Did you not know I have rebaptised my fool … (p 108). It confuses people, it keeps those ugly rumors going, and it’s beyond tacky. It certainly would be welcome to have a fiction about the Tudor period that showed people as complex individuals with motive & beliefs rather than the usual black/white sterotypes. I am enjoying it too but for different reasons. 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